tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post8228628484053382477..comments2023-08-04T08:58:48.750+01:00Comments on Discourse with Dr. Tilde: Trivial 8 Maryam Fires BackDr. Aliyu U. Tildehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09289324801389455491noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-36623776988269872872010-12-26T17:29:19.970+01:002010-12-26T17:29:19.970+01:00At what age did Maryam (AS) gave birth to Jesus (A...At what age did Maryam (AS) gave birth to Jesus (AS)? This will help maryams argument if she can establish that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-28723518501105059362010-12-23T17:58:41.588+01:002010-12-23T17:58:41.588+01:00I agree with Maryam that we here in the north and ...I agree with Maryam that we here in the north and Muslims in particlar and our dear Nigerians should rise to the protection of our FAMILY values.The Isalmic provision of divoce isb bing abused and should seriously checked. Icall on the Sultan and the supreme council of Islamic affairs to rise to the challenge Failing which we shall have no nation as Family is backrock of any society. That is how the Creator intended to be.UmarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-60983560830783274042010-12-23T09:00:46.783+01:002010-12-23T09:00:46.783+01:00@Anonymous,
"Islam is a religion,if you are a...@Anonymous,<br />"Islam is a religion,if you are a muslim you have the Quran and the Hadith to answer all your questions"<br /><br />@What about all those terrorist who are killing innocent people in the name of Islam. They claim to have read the Quran and the Hadith, but have FAILED to apply common sense. "What is wrong is wrong"..Period <br /><br /><br /> please i repeat take any topic you like ,the Quran and the Hadith have answers.<br /><br />What is wrong ,yes is wrong and the Quran and the Hadith also tell us what is wrong and what is right .It is left for a muslim to obey .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-85484480311672445472010-12-23T07:23:59.742+01:002010-12-23T07:23:59.742+01:00This is a very big dilemma. Sister Maryam must hav...This is a very big dilemma. Sister Maryam must have been out of the academic circle for quet some time. Every responsible parent isapprehensive of the immoral state of our Educational Institutions now. A place where even maried women are not safefrom acts of immorality. Little girls are thrown into near prostitution for wanting to pass examinations. So, most parents are eager to marry off their daughters safely as soon as they can, rather than risk the possibility of having them turn into near prostitute for the love of "Education or Vocational Training" which she might never have the opportunity of using considering the uncountable number of graduates walking our streets and most of them willing to do anything to get a job. Maryam there is much more to early marriage that the directional way you are going about it. However, I stand to be corrected.Lawalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-90402218338960680712010-12-22T12:12:42.414+01:002010-12-22T12:12:42.414+01:00Maryam failed to respond to Tildes accusation on w...Maryam failed to respond to Tildes accusation on women activist/feminist. cos the identity of Maimuna is known and there are available witness who can testify. Why do you remain silent? This proved our suspicion that you are working for your godfarthers. Allah ya shiryemu.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-52723656998210164502010-12-22T11:16:59.415+01:002010-12-22T11:16:59.415+01:00It is unfortunate that we debate the issue of VVF ...It is unfortunate that we debate the issue of VVF relating it to early marriage as posed by Mar'yam but decide to keep mute when cases of teenage girls in sex trade all over Abuja where our dear Lawyer resides and elsewhere in the country. There is nothing wrong in married girls going to school from their matrimonial home, it is only that those to legislate in support are the main customers of unmarried ladies on our our campuses who are mobile prostitutes. Please Mar'yam kindly fight against prostitution as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-75244657887539669782010-12-22T04:23:16.453+01:002010-12-22T04:23:16.453+01:00Where does Atiku, Buhari, Sarah Jubrin, IBB, Sambo...Where does Atiku, Buhari, Sarah Jubrin, IBB, Sambo etc etc stand on this issue? Our so called journalists, go after each of the aspirants in the land and get them to tell us their stand immediately. Publish their stand in the daily and let hold them responsible for the lives of all Nigerian girls.<br /><br />All aspirants, where do you stand on this debate? Can you articulate your position as clearly as this daughter of Africa has done?<br /><br />Its time to lift the veil. This simply shows that the north like the rest part of Nigeria has been unfortunate to have been represented by the worst sets of people in their mist. The system that throws up this sort of individuals must be destroyed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-40979039121080903612010-12-21T21:31:08.181+01:002010-12-21T21:31:08.181+01:00I agree with Dr Tilde that the debate should conti...I agree with Dr Tilde that the debate should continue.<br />I do not agree with Maryam that VVF is 100 % caused by early marriage. I am surprised that as a lawyer she finds it safe to say that she does not need evidence. She should have consulted a medical expert before arriving at such a conclusion on a very sensitive issue. If we want to get this debate right, we must involve medical experts. A well-experienced medical expert once told me that VVF is caused more by lack of medical care than the age of the patient.<br />Maryam also needs to fire back on what some commentators said that if Yerima had picked a young prostitute from Wuse Zone 4, Abuja, the women right groups would not have been hard on him. If we sincerely have concern for the plight of young women, we should fight and outlaw prostitution, not early marriage.<br />Also Maryam did not respond on the issue of our legislators being under pressure by foreign agencies to pass the child rights legislation. I once challenged the lawmakers in this forum to tell us whom among them received any demand from his constituency that they need the child rights legislation.<br />It is very wrong to assert that Yerima committed any offence, less alone compare him with the police rapist.The Child Rights Act can never override the constitution. That is the beauty of the constitution. Its makers made a good work. If we want to fight injustice, let us fight injustice in all its ramifications. Period. Selective justice is another form of injustice. Legislating for women and children alone is just a waste of time if we will not do the right things in the society generally. The general injustice in the society is the cause of the plight of Maimuna more than her being female or child. I share the view of Tilde that if Maimuna were daughter of a well-to-do person being taken into the city in her father's car, the police would no have abducted her. These injustices only or mostly happen to children of the poor. Why not fight the source of the artificial poverty instead of being sentimental on the gender, religion or tribe of the victims or the culprits?<br />As far as I am concerned, the points made by Tilde and the commentators remain valid. Maryam should fire back more. But I commend her on her efforts in this Maimuna case. I only dislike the female chauvinism being played into the case.<br />I agree with hiding the identity of Maimuna to some extent. But it should not be taken too far. I was once involved in a case like that of a Fulani girl that was raped in the bush by some young boys. At the police station this issue of stigma was being used to cajole the girl's father to settle the matter for the fear that she may not get husband. I was happy to hear that the father told them that nowadays even known prostitutes get husband when they decide to get married. After all if the issue of the proposed trust fund is pursued, Maimuna will be a hero. We were told that a lady that featured in a home grown pornography is now happily married. No wahala.Ibrahim M. Attahirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-22538216205258757102010-12-21T20:07:09.280+01:002010-12-21T20:07:09.280+01:00@Anonymous
"We must make conscious efforts to...@Anonymous<br />"We must make conscious efforts to begin to change things in our own selves, and our immediate families while we look for good leaders to entrust our affairs unto their hands!"<br /><br />While so many are pointing fingers, You so excellently put the responsibility back on us....Well said!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-48223126813287048142010-12-21T19:49:27.143+01:002010-12-21T19:49:27.143+01:00I salute Aunty Maryam's disposition on the sub...I salute Aunty Maryam's disposition on the subject matter and her efforts in helping the helpless. However, our society, especially we in the North, has turned upside-down. Parents (men) dont seem to care about the moral decadence in the society and/or our households. Many men have become almost irresponsible as we deny our kids basic education, proper feeding, clothing and shelter, etc. We dont seem to appreciate the physiological changes in our adolescents, particularly young girls, and never care to guide them accordingly.<br />Another factor that tend to mislead our youth is the flamboyance we create and show in our marriages that made almost every girl to aspire to while scaring away the boys from marriages. Young men rather prefer to have an affair with girls in the name of friendship until the obvious happens when parents would be looking for ways to manage the resultant bad situation.<br />We also have many men chasing and keeping underaged girls as mistresses - girls equivalent to their grand daughters.<br />Yet, we see these things happening everyday but we pretend nothing goes wrong in the society until when it too late when they manifest in own our homes.<br />Honestly, the issue at stake, is beyond early marriages for fear of vvf, or having to enact laws to stop early marriages. That is not the solution.<br />The solution lies in proper upbringing at our homes where men take control of the affairs, the government, at all levels, tackling unemployement and underemployment, providing vocational centres to train and empower our youth in different skills, proper funding of education, provision of basic healthcare facilities, etc.<br />Please lets not continue to blame everything on our "bad" leadres. We must make conscious efforts to begin to change things in our own selves, and our immediate families while we look for good leaders to entrust our affairs unto their hands!<br />May Allah help us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-37808342947379319142010-12-21T15:33:38.200+01:002010-12-21T15:33:38.200+01:00Salamu alaikum, the numbers of unmarried teenage m...Salamu alaikum, the numbers of unmarried teenage mothers in western countries are disturbinly alarming, if we do not want this for our future daughters, critical understanding and rightful implementation of the Quranic laws regarding marriage in all aspects are to be applied. Furthermore, Northen Nigeria is not the only part of the world that experiences the subject matter, numerous African countries practise it, Eastern Europe, especially the former Soviet Union, Asia, even North america. I am not disputing the difficulties encountered but these counties have sanctioned. laws that considers marriage under the age of eighteen illegal and even abusive. We as a Muslim community know what our Deen requires from us, we can start from a personal level to make changes that will "God willing" impact our society! Ameen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-38733122693954605412010-12-21T15:04:14.495+01:002010-12-21T15:04:14.495+01:00@Abdulrahman
"....to attack our Noble Prophet...@Abdulrahman<br />"....to attack our Noble Prophet Muhammad SAW and Islam"<br /><br />@Anonymous<br />"..The prophet got marriege to his<br />second beloved wife Aisha at d age of six and consumeted with her at<br />the aged of nine..."<br /><br />..The TRUTH need fear no attack, nor does it have a need to defend itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-61587933613612121962010-12-21T14:55:15.489+01:002010-12-21T14:55:15.489+01:00What amazes me is that so many so called religious...What amazes me is that so many so called religious leaders rubber stamp pure evil and wickedness in the name of religious practices. To these people, "their hearts and minds have been sealed and even though they read the scriptures every day will never have understanding"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-26909366454428154602010-12-21T13:22:25.021+01:002010-12-21T13:22:25.021+01:00What is wrong is wrong !!!
Whatever reason we may...What is wrong is wrong !!!<br /><br />Whatever reason we may alude to it, it is just wrong to marry off a girl at age 13. She is psychologiacally, socially and mentally incapable to marital tasks.<br />she has to cater for her husband, children and other families. She is just a kidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-46595594111260328382010-12-21T09:37:08.784+01:002010-12-21T09:37:08.784+01:00The Nigeria civil right
group's groans over th...The Nigeria civil right<br />group's groans over the<br />yerima's dating to a<br />thirteen egyptians<br />teenaged lady, was just<br />hubbub & utmost<br />speaking hullabaloos of<br />the so called women<br />right activist, Those<br />frequently jumping on<br />such a religious matters<br />which they are not<br />entitled to prescribed and<br />utter anything in regard<br />to, without conveying to<br />any consultation with the<br />scholars that are<br />appropriatly entitled to<br />pass any religious or<br />spiritual stand.<br />Probably human being<br />telling not to himself<br />truth as we mostly<br />believed in religion, we<br />also believed in the<br />existence of God, and dat<br />of what ever religion you<br />belong to especially the<br />two major religious<br />practiced in Nigeria (islam<br />and christianity) you as a<br />bliever most adhere and<br />accept the whole life<br />style which been implies<br />as a manual design to<br />govern every aspect of<br />life, as believers and as<br />its within our faith<br />especially islam, its the<br />God dat is more wise and<br />that its he; created<br />everything on this earth,<br />thus, its he GOD<br />resposble to design a<br />roadmap dat would<br />eventually govern our<br />being as subservient,<br />A man accepting manual<br />of human made object,<br />being its electronic<br />devices such as<br />phone,computers etc, to<br />immencely and<br />appropriately guide him<br />on how to use them,<br />other wise, he could not<br />operate even a little<br />device witout going<br />through that its manual,<br />therefore, if that is the<br />case why we as<br />subservient to what so<br />ever faith and that of<br />being a God creature have<br />been turning down his<br />manual that designed our<br />lifestyle,<br />Nigerians have been well-<br />known in the<br />commitment to their<br />belong faith and totally<br />devotion to God,<br />The latest episode about<br />senator Ahmad sani<br />yerima on his marriege to<br />an egyptian virgin and an<br />extra- ordinary decent<br />young girl is in accodance<br />of islamic injuction,<br />becouse islam allowed<br />marriege to an underage<br />or even infant as long as<br />the conjugal conditions<br />are fulfilled, Don't b<br />strange! Islam is the<br />most superior religion<br />that preserved human<br />right initially, The prophet<br />got marriege to his<br />second beloved wife<br />Aisha at d age of six and<br />consumeted with her at<br />the aged of nine and also<br />islam allowed muslems<br />to marry women of their<br />choice, therefore, if this<br />propagandist and so<br />called human right<br />activist suspecting<br />yerima among which<br />some of them are<br />moslems orientalist, that<br />direct or in direcly<br />conveying suspicious to<br />the holy prophet, which<br />consequently putting<br />them into a risk of<br />blasphemy atimes up to<br />apostasy.<br />And claims that yerima<br />paid her a dowry of<br />hundred thousand dollars<br />of which the senate<br />ordered an inquiry as<br />alleged by those civil right<br />groups, seems to reflect<br />their ironic degradation<br />and contemptous<br />themselves without<br />worthy to be given such<br />a bulky dowry,<br />In conclusion, women<br />should be very careful of<br />such an activism of<br />bringing them backward<br />or dawnward to their<br />feet and fulfilling their<br />vision of displaying them<br />sexually active on the<br />pavements and turning<br />them animals, dis-verged<br />and object of men<br />satisfaction all in the<br />name of advocating for<br />their rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-46426480933078137412010-12-21T09:19:04.099+01:002010-12-21T09:19:04.099+01:00Islam is a religion,if you are a muslim you have ...Islam is a religion,if you are a muslim you have the Quran and the Hadith to answer all your questions .Please try to read them ,understand the Quran and the teachings of our Prophet PBUH.What is not clear for you ask. No need bringing logic and giving un necessary examples.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-4910691806065744692010-12-21T02:42:50.356+01:002010-12-21T02:42:50.356+01:00Let me dare to say that, as a doctor for more than...Let me dare to say that, as a doctor for more than 20 years, I know that early marriage does NOT directly lead to higher incidence of VVF. In the promiscuous society we leave in, I can understand if parents choose to risk VVF over moral decadence by marrying out their daughter earlier than we would love to see. I don't doubt the sincerity of this author, but We should be aware of mischief makers amongst Muslims and outside them who would want to encourage universality of western life style hence they approach issues tangentially. Like when they colonized us with the express intent to "educate" and "civilize" us but came with Bible in one hand and gun in the other! We should not miss the forest as we go for the trees; let's keep our eyes on the bigger picture. If VVF is "harm" to a girl, AIDS, Herpes, Gonorrhea, Hepatitis B are much less fun, but even more, the potential for moral decadence, parentless children and explosion in crime that may follow could be a societal nightmare. <br />Back to my first (somewhat controversial) statement. It is pregnancy and childbirth that lead to VVF not marriage. A young girl that can have VVf as a result of giving birth to a legitimate child will have VVF if she had conceived the child outside wedlock! If VVF is the main concern as this article indicates why isn't "delayed first child" be the mantra? Disclaimer, this issue is much more complex that can be reduced to these 2 paragraphs, I only decided to redirect our minds rather than to make my stance. I required and when I can make the time, I would be happy to discuss more elaborately.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06266774803865522353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-8091553517049482172010-12-21T01:27:11.487+01:002010-12-21T01:27:11.487+01:00the same old story 'vvf is caused as a result ...the same old story 'vvf is caused as a result of early marriage' . The first person to used that old line was avicenna in 950AD, so, sis i believe u are not a medical practioner and u made a very big mistake of not carrying out research on ur own, to tel u da truth, early marriage is not the main cause of vvf but rather prolong labor, dont u knw dat there are many patient living vvf in europe, usa and other developed countries, other causes of vvf include violent rape, hysterectomy and cone biopsy period! The whole point is, people that use this line of arguement are people<br />that hate islam and muslims in general, i dont blame u simply bcos of ur western life style and double standard when it comes to women.limamin changinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-27444132627166307832010-12-21T00:20:53.245+01:002010-12-21T00:20:53.245+01:00@Nasiru
What stops girls from continuing their edu...@Nasiru<br />What stops girls from continuing their education from their matrimonial homes is their husbands.Simple!<br /><br />I do not at all intend to make light of the situation, but why does Yerima not emulate Prophet Muhammad (SAW) by doing the opposite of what he has been doing? What I mean is that he should instead marry women that are much much older than him. Remember that is Sunnah as well (not that I think he should marry, marry and marry anytime he feels like "changing his wardrobe".Asabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07832171747705965947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-30840507456447340102010-12-20T23:04:51.270+01:002010-12-20T23:04:51.270+01:00Aunty Maryam, please, action is needed. We cant af...Aunty Maryam, please, action is needed. We cant afford to see this case swept under the carpet. You know police well, as a lawyer. It is good if. as advocates we organize ourselves under this issue and mount a sustained campaign that these useless police men be tried to serve as deterrence for their like. I think this way we will shame those detractors who use every opportunity to castigate women rights advocates. More grease to your elbow.Safiyyah J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-9735242662660057382010-12-20T22:50:25.509+01:002010-12-20T22:50:25.509+01:00In my opinion I think people should desist from ma...In my opinion I think people should desist from making negative comments on Yerima's marriage else we will look at it as hiding under Yarima's case to attack our Noble Prophet Muhammad SAW and Islam. It has been genuinely established from a sound hadith that our noble Prophet SAW married Aisha RA at the age (9).AbdulRahmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066244455136799077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-83316636597295113382010-12-20T22:44:56.296+01:002010-12-20T22:44:56.296+01:00Well said again Aunty Maryam!!! you make a whole l...Well said again Aunty Maryam!!! you make a whole load of us so proud. Pls fight for maimuna. Pls fight for maimuna. those policemen must be made to rot in jail and then hell. I am alarmed that most of the posts on this blog tend to ignore the fact that teenage promiscuity affects not only girls but also boys- at a more alarming rate. since early marriage is the solution for teenage promiscuity- then i dare to advocate that we begin marrying off our sons at the age of 13 as well. all those in support say aye!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-22498049510287802172010-12-20T22:06:25.225+01:002010-12-20T22:06:25.225+01:00after reading Dr Tilde's article yesterday, i ...after reading Dr Tilde's article yesterday, i couldnt help but wonder when our society will progress to the level of holding all parents responsible for proper welfare of their children. I have a 13 year old myself and looking at her right now i cant imagine how anyone will say she can give an informed 'consent' to an important issue like marriage. Indeed my daughter will only accept and undertake such a thing because " we her parents said it is good for her and acceptable in islam" but not because she knows what it entails or has the maturity to carry it through. The truth of the issue is that our children are most of the time brought up to obey us as parents and it is therefore our responsibility as parents to be fair to them and choose what is best for them keeping in mind that Allah SWT will hold us responsible for whatever decisions we take.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09638552786270314968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-67610347651320324962010-12-20T19:54:32.268+01:002010-12-20T19:54:32.268+01:00Thank you Dr. Tilde and Hajiya Maryam for this imp...Thank you Dr. Tilde and Hajiya Maryam for this important debate. It is palpable that the so-called women rights activists have gone this far in their hatred of patriarchy and any other form of male domination. I dont think Maryam and co. are willing to accept uncritically the Islamic injunctions on marriage due to their belief in radical feminist ideologies. To them, the major ill of our society is men domination. All other things are minor evils. May God guide us, amin.Muaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-25648669173420195022010-12-20T18:28:42.357+01:002010-12-20T18:28:42.357+01:00Aunty Maryam. Thanks for the good work. But this i...Aunty Maryam. Thanks for the good work. But this issue is not about attacking women's right advocacy group for their silence. In Dr's article he challenged everyone; women's right group, Kano state government (who can spend funds on regulating film industries), our Ulama (for not voicing out in sermons), Sharia commitee, the muslim ummah (who riot because of the prophets cartoon in Denmark and Miss World pageant in Abuja, whereas rape is a bigger sin)Governor Shekarau himself and even the Emir of Kano. He merely mentioned Yerima's case in case of women right groups like he mentioned the Denmark issue and Miss world pageant when addressing the Ummah, like he mentioned the Hausa film regulation when addressing Kano state government.<br />No one is blaming one party, we are all guilty, the weak needs to be protected by the government and us, not the other way round. Because from what I understand the Police are trying to shelve the case to save the reputation of the Police force i.e protecting the strong at the expense of the weak.Sa'adhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744704944391410286noreply@blogger.com