tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post9030399214362105189..comments2023-08-04T08:58:48.750+01:00Comments on Discourse with Dr. Tilde: Trivial 12 The Pains of a Christian FanaticDr. Aliyu U. Tildehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09289324801389455491noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-78449703946617412302011-02-03T09:48:20.653+01:002011-02-03T09:48:20.653+01:00you are right Mr. PhD holder.you are right Mr. PhD holder.Barr. Ja'afar Ibrahimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10825590733629819187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-73930158368443417982011-01-27T09:44:12.447+01:002011-01-27T09:44:12.447+01:00Dr Tilde, I still feel you should respond to some ...Dr Tilde, I still feel you should respond to some of the Bamaguje's comments which were clearly made either out of mischief or ignorancy. There are alot of misrepresentations in his write-up about Islam and responding to them by correcting those notion might help educate and cure him of the perceived hatred he had demonstrated.Abdulrahman M. Alfanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-17703963868156711032011-01-20T00:58:05.280+01:002011-01-20T00:58:05.280+01:00All the comments so far (except one or two), inclu...All the comments so far (except one or two), including that of Tilde, made it difficult for me to see any remarkable difference in the metrics of fanaticism between the writers and Bamaguje (yes, Bamaguje). Please, as true muslims, emulate the Prophet (SAW), pray for Bamaguje (rightly pronounced as Bamaguje? Meaning, are we not going to run away?) for him to see the light and remove the question mark from his name. Who knows? he may change his name to Bamaguje ba (we are not going to run away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-7261176871851125042011-01-19T18:10:11.376+01:002011-01-19T18:10:11.376+01:00Praise be to Allah the supreme, may peace and His ...Praise be to Allah the supreme, may peace and His blessings be on all His prophets. It's a pity to have the likes of Bamaguje in our mid who is ignorant of his own religion and have no respect for Allah's prophets. Your blasphemy against the holy prophet of Islam and attack to the religion of Islam and Muslims clearly portray your ignorance. May Allah punish you and make our society free of your likes as your aim is to torment trouble. May Allah continue to spread the light of Islam, provide for our people and open their hearts to see the truth. We Muslims leave you in the HANDS Of Allah the almighty. More grease to your elbow Dr Tilde as you always try to defend the course of truth and justice.Bunzawinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-26096549529082790852011-01-18T12:42:33.155+01:002011-01-18T12:42:33.155+01:00Hahaha!!! Nafata kenan. O Allah, show Bamaguje the...Hahaha!!! Nafata kenan. O Allah, show Bamaguje the right path to follow, ameen.Kabirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-20059977138367959442011-01-18T11:46:20.430+01:002011-01-18T11:46:20.430+01:00In event of the recent 'burn a Qur'an'...In event of the recent 'burn a Qur'an' saga in the US, the Imam of the mosque being constructed in the neighbourhood of the destroyed NY twin towers opined that the US and indeed all Governments in the West have to be 'very careful of extreemists in the two faith traditions' as they are the real threats to the welbeing as well and peaceful cooexistence of the adherents of Islam and christianity.<br />Bamaguje is a picturesque example of this truth.<br /><br />Extreemism is inimical to any respected phenominon and is therefore a negetive attribute. It entertains subjectivity, intolerence and therefore injustice to, not only the targetted recipient but even more so, the innocent. This is why Islam enjoins Muslims to follow the middle course in the discharge religious responsiblities.<br /><br />We pray to Allah SWT for Bamaguje to have the capacity to view other opinions in the light of reason and a sense objectivity. Allah is Beneficient Merciful.Yunfa Bahaushenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-64937093311570077992011-01-18T02:27:17.085+01:002011-01-18T02:27:17.085+01:00I recommend below a reference backing Tilde's ...I recommend below a reference backing Tilde's 'implied statement that all Hausas ought to be a Muslim in order to remain aunthentic is unfortunate becuae it lacked any basis in history...' accoding to the last anonymous response before Tilde's from an article by the 1st PhD History of Nigerian university-Published in J-P. Chrétien (ed), L’invention religieuse en Afrique: histoire et religion en Afrique noire. Paris: Karthala, 1993,<br />pp. 267-296.<br />History as religion:<br />de-constructing the Magians ("Maguzawa")<br />of Nigerian Hausaland.Abubakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-2255522351209709602011-01-17T14:37:33.054+01:002011-01-17T14:37:33.054+01:00I resisted the temptation to moderate the views th...I resisted the temptation to moderate the views that my noble readers expressed in this article especially those I adjudged as abusive. But two things discouraged me from doing so.<br /><br />One is the reckless abuse of Nafata himself not only against Muslims but also against Islam and its Prophet. Something persuaded me that he deserves the same language, though not from me.<br /><br />The second is his fraudulent identity. If he had used a genuine name, I would have been obliged to protect him even for his safety. But if he cannot answer even his name, then he has stripped himself of any right to honor and protection.<br /><br />Now, the issue of his group identity, being a Hausa pagan, as he likes to call himself, when in fact he is a Christian. Yes, pagan Hausas have the right to be Christians or remain pagan. I don't think anybody has quarrel with that, otherwise, they would have been given the option which Christian Spanish gave to Muslims: convert to Christianity, or leave or be killed. Muslims had the capacity to do so. But Islam has never done this anywhere throughout it's 1434 years. Christian and Jewish scholars have testified to this.<br /><br />However, there is one thing that Islam does not tolerate, and no civilization has ever tolerated, that is aggression. America, which claims to be Christian, is the epitome of this principle today. The verses of the Quran are clear on this. So if our Hausa non-Muslim brothers choose to be aggressive to Islam and Muslims, it will be difficult for them to earn the love of Muslims. This applies also to our other non-Muslim brothers who have chosen to undermine their Muslim neighbors. Most of the frictions we have in the North today arise from this fact.<br /><br />Nafata may not be alone but he has consistently carried his enmity too far. Comments of these readers should be seen in this context. That is why the abuses are limited to him and not extended to Christians and Christianity, which Muslims will never do.<br /><br />Finally, let me say that I deliberately published him and my short response such that christians in particular would see the damage that their fanatics are doing to that great religion in this country, just as Muslim fanatics do to Islam too. Nafata has been consistent in his aggression. It is good that the Christians who know him call him to order. After all, there are things he just can't change. So let him learn to live in peace with them.Dr. Aliyu U. Tildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09289324801389455491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-29829043584723247662011-01-17T11:07:00.831+01:002011-01-17T11:07:00.831+01:00Comments on Nafata clearly show that religious int...Comments on Nafata clearly show that religious intolerance, indoctination and incivility are serious problems in the country responsible for our backwardness and incessnat ethno-religious violence - killing for and in the name of religion and god (small g, becuase the Almighty God - G in capital does not require the assistance or agency of man to deal with anyone who offends Him). If Nafata demonstrated intolerance, which he shamelessly did, all the comments were also not in tune with Tilde's original article but rather exhibited equal fanaticism and unwarranted coupling of Hausa ethnic identity and Islam. They show equal bigotry as Nafata's article. Referring to a human being as an animal is ungodly. Tilde's implied statement that all Hausas ought to be a Muslim in order to remain aunthentic is unfortunate becuae it lacked any basis in history, and is responsible for the denial of Hausa non-muslims of visibility and representation in government in Northenr States wit dominant Muslims population and hegemony. This in itself is dicrimination and ungodly. Indeed it is an insult to all Hausas who are not Muslims and thise who died before Islamic conquest of Hausa land. So if any Hausa man is not a Muslim, then he is a frustrated person? This is an illogical conclusion, and the sort that continues to ignite violence and perpetuate prejudice. Nigerians should wake up and be civil in their public discourse of religion and ethnicity. Freedom of religion implies freedom to choose and practice religchig of choice without molestation and prejudice.<br />I must commednt the commentators for refraining from launching direct attack on Christinaity, because Nafata's view does not represent Christian's view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-1742673625025264142011-01-17T10:41:27.434+01:002011-01-17T10:41:27.434+01:00I most add to what many has said that this is usua...I most add to what many has said that this is usually the thinking of many christian/jewish fanatics.<br />My advice is we do not hate them(Donot hate your enermy it clouds your vision of him) but rather keep a vigilant eye on them.<br />His quote are wrong and twisted to serve his porpose! meaning for those who wants to preach to him it'll be difficult for the simple reason that he's not uninformed but misinformed..Just pray for him for guidance if the Almighty so wishes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-23108973499282352972011-01-16T22:25:45.876+01:002011-01-16T22:25:45.876+01:00Shegen arne, nafata bamaguje babban kafiri. Allah ...Shegen arne, nafata bamaguje babban kafiri. Allah Ya wanke zuciyarka ka zama musulmi. Tilde,pls give us his email address if you have, so that we will preach to him, in yana da rabo ya gane ya karbi kalma, then Allah will forgive him.saleh yamusanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-54917005076067885602011-01-16T05:50:56.939+01:002011-01-16T05:50:56.939+01:00Whoever he calls himself is simply a product of or...Whoever he calls himself is simply a product of orientalists. They study Islam not objectively but to distort the religion. They aim to disallow genuine minds to embrace Islam. Look at how he quotes out of context.<br />Islam is one thing and Arabs or Muslims is another.<br />Let this fool read Islam in its texts. <br /><br />What a pity.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17958413382510276773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-52462885369540839312011-01-15T21:38:59.108+01:002011-01-15T21:38:59.108+01:00Its a pity some people are born to be educated ill...Its a pity some people are born to be educated illerates. I beg you Dr stop wasting your time in answering Bamaguje as his name implies he sounds like one. May Allah SWT help him to see the light.Hajonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-79567368374114142342011-01-15T09:44:42.653+01:002011-01-15T09:44:42.653+01:00Dr pls keep on the good work for BAMAGUJE is a los...Dr pls keep on the good work for BAMAGUJE is a lost ship who's master has no interest in him.bagienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-64805456110538602932011-01-15T05:16:16.775+01:002011-01-15T05:16:16.775+01:00Thank you dr for making a succint retort to bamagu...Thank you dr for making a succint retort to bamagujes' contemptuous view about Islam and Muslims. May Allah sharpen your pen, strengthen your courage and bless your efforts of uplifting the truth. Quite a frustrated, depressed and despaired Bamaguje! Gnash your teeth and cry in pain and agony, for Islam is spreading like wild fire not only in Maguzawas' land where this ignoramus hails but through out the world especially 'The West'. Refer to BBC report on the rate at which British citezens embrace Islam (40,000 people all citezens of UK embraced Islam in the year 2001 and The figure tramendeously increased to 100,000 in 2010). So die with your fury Bamaguje! During my service year, 1999, i was overwhelmed with joy and contentment ofcourse why not? it was my most profitable year pertaining to preaching and spreading Allah's religion, the ultimate religion despite our weaknesses and shortcomings in championing its course to the best of our abilty. During that year, many Christians mainly Igbos, for I served in Annambra state, converted to Islam including medical dr, university student and professor and many business tycoons. In fact, we were able to establish and inaugurate MSS in Nmadi Azikwe University Awka .Bamaguje how many educated muslims have you ever converted to Christianity despite your style of desecrading Qur'an by misquoting the verses and citing them off context? the religion miraculously is the fastest spreading and growing religion outside its homeland in spite of Bamaguje and allies's efforts to thwarting Islam. Praise be to Allah the Supreme supporter of Islam.Ibrahim JibiyaIbrahim Jibiyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-32538638978276391492011-01-15T03:31:21.485+01:002011-01-15T03:31:21.485+01:00What else do expect from an ABSOLUTE Bamaguje?What else do expect from an ABSOLUTE Bamaguje?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-15080523424112183582011-01-15T01:29:59.805+01:002011-01-15T01:29:59.805+01:00No need to Expostulate over lost souls.No need to Expostulate over lost souls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-28062561588280901822011-01-14T22:54:04.173+01:002011-01-14T22:54:04.173+01:00Bamaguje, Bamaguje, Bamaguje, but why? Is Bamaguje...Bamaguje, Bamaguje, Bamaguje, but why? Is Bamaguje Nafata your true identity? Please respond. You need counselling.Adeizanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-31262443193471929442011-01-14T22:19:41.364+01:002011-01-14T22:19:41.364+01:00We all know why people like Bamagujen kare are hur...We all know why people like Bamagujen kare are hurt and why they HATE Islam, Muslims and offcourse Hausas. <br />Bamagujen kare was specifically and suprisingly mad at Dr. Tilde's article despite its objectivity and fairness simply because he has never known peace in his mind, he is a slave, offcourse his name tells us. <br />Bamaguje, take it easy please, you cannot stop or tanish the image of Islam, its far beyound your capability, MANYAN ARNA MA SUN YI SUN BARI.<br />We are not suppose to reply you even, what do we gain from a dialogue with Bamaguje? Get a name firstHinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-13132153111264463452011-01-14T22:04:20.276+01:002011-01-14T22:04:20.276+01:00his name has said it all...Bamagujen kare, die in ...his name has said it all...Bamagujen kare, die in your painsHinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-65616694426771934532011-01-14T21:00:56.006+01:002011-01-14T21:00:56.006+01:00Clearly, the animal called Bamaguje is suffering f...Clearly, the animal called Bamaguje is suffering from poor upbring and lack of moral competency. He truly needs our prayer despite his urgly mindset to which all he sees is pure ignnrance and disrect to those that are different from him. Mr. Tilde keep up with good work and indeed intellectually stimulating perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-59030390381970613972011-01-14T20:07:37.201+01:002011-01-14T20:07:37.201+01:00There is nothing more to add than what my brothers...There is nothing more to add than what my brothers have said. But I want to also remind our brothers that the Prophet (SAW) prayed for the man that was always throwing rubbish into his house, when he realised that the man was sick. This made the man to accept Islam. may we all pray that "Bamagude" be guided by Allah (SWT).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-57397303457950553882011-01-14T19:49:21.127+01:002011-01-14T19:49:21.127+01:00It's really a pity that Bamaguje has not under...It's really a pity that Bamaguje has not understood even his acclaimed "religion" and is so arrogant and transgressive towards Islam without any substantive reason whatsoever. He even went further to give an incompatible similitude by wrongly referring to the Qur aan out of context. May the Almighty guide Bamaguje if he can be guided. I challenge him to go and critically study the meaning of the Qur aan and ponder over it with unbiased mind otherwise he may be allowing his selfish mind to lead him further astray. The reference he has given for Suras Al Mu'minuun (The Believers), verse 1 to 7 is entirely out of context and very wrong. I am sure he was trying to refer to verse 7 without sound knowledge and understanding of the meaning of verse and the context upon which it was revealed. The meaning of the verse reads and I qoute "Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands posses for (in their case) they are free from blame". Bamuguje should know that captives were acquired through battles and all the battles fought by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) were in defence rother than attacking the enemies of Islam. In Islam, women are very important and killing them as well as children in battles is strongly prohibited therefore they are taken as captives in order to save their lives and protect their rights. The belivers are recommended to marry them. To understand the meaning of this verse and those before it, I refer Bamaguje to verse 25 of Surah Al Nisa' (The Women) that is Qur aan Chatpter 4 verse 25 where Allah says (interpretation of the meaning) and I quote "If any of you (the believing men) have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. You are one from another. Wed them with leave (permission) of their owners and give them their dowers according to what is reasonable: they should be chaste not lustful, nor taking paramours (a paramour is someone one is having sexual relationship with particularly out of wedlock): when they are taken in wedlock if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free (non slave) women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it's better for you that ye practice self-restrain. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". had Bamaguje read and understood this verse from Suratun Nisa' and honestly use his head and mind to ponder over it critically, he wouldn't have referred to the verse(s) in Suratul Mu'minuun wrongly and out of context. I really challenge Bamaguje to read the Qur aan and ponder over it. Qur aan is Allah's (God's) word and Bamaguje apparently claims to be a christian. A life time challenge about the the Qur aan that stands the test of time is as Allah says (interpretation of the meaning) in Surah Al Isra' verse 88 (i.e. Qr aan 17:88) " Say (O Muhammad): 'If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur aan they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support". Allah knows best.Kasim Gumelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-24919981391104962252011-01-14T19:04:54.162+01:002011-01-14T19:04:54.162+01:00Thank you Dr. for the response; really and truly I...Thank you Dr. for the response; really and truly I don't think he deserve any response apart from a prayer for guidance. He has indeed chosen a beffitting name Bamaguje. We all know who the Maguzawas are -simply put, they are pagans hence in the lowest ebb of disbelievers. Fii qulubihim marad.danguguwanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522281603276666782.post-50645084489626459732011-01-14T17:58:07.364+01:002011-01-14T17:58:07.364+01:00Islam and Muslims are far away from being drag to ...Islam and Muslims are far away from being drag to violence. The writer does not even understood the science of writing and has demonstrated a zero score intellectual discourse and love to peace. I hope its not another contract to polarized the existing peace by his provocation. Surely, we are more wiser to be deceived. You can not hide to be a hero, instead you come to the stage for intellectual discourse so that you can be upgraded from the dark spots doctrine in your hearth. Come forward for intellectual discourse I believe Aliyu will engage you in a peaceful and convincing way. It is my hope that after the discourse you can be able to widen your scope of understanding and finally embrace Islam. Do not hide if the course you are following is genuine. I will refer you also to Micheal Hart's book entitle'' 100 most influential persons in history'' for you to see how an American Jew ranked Muhammad (May the glory, peace and Salutation be upon him, His progenies and rightly guided companions). Muslim have respect to all prophets(PBUT) and we have many references that will quiche your thirst only if your mind is not blocked by enmity and stereotyping. Feel safe to come forward for a peaceful and intellectual discourse I am sure Dr Tilde will guide you.Faruknoreply@blogger.com